The revival of rail service between South and Solier stations is a source of complaints and representations, especially in the district of Coronel Rosales. The residents want an alternative to bus line 319. However, 18 kilometers of roads no longer exist.
stopped running for almost 20 years and even today many still do not understand why it disappeared. For five decades
trains between Bahia Blanca and Punta Alta were the nerve driver of public passenger transport.
Until the late '60s, a dozen of daily Sud Station laced with similar puntaltenses of Puerto Belgrano and Admiral Solier. At first it took 42 minutes, the second 56.
formations were pulled by steam locomotives and then by car-engine Fiat diesel engines such as Baldwin, Cockerill and GT22.
slowly, partly due to the motorization of Argentina, who put the car within reach of many, and strong competition from buses, trains were losing weight.
should also join the progressive neglect of the State on the issue and not a few bad policies by the railway authorities regarding the closing of branches and failure frequencies.
While in 1951 the local train Ingeniero White, Garro, Spurr, Galván and Puerto Belgrano carried 1,800,000 passengers in 1977 fell to just 93,000 tickets.
The coup de grace came in 1992, decision by the national government, though, as public transport, local trains had died much earlier.
But inactivity must add something worse: the lifting of 18 kilometers of track, as well as cannibalization of culverts and bridges.
Against this backdrop, is it possible that the train running again between Bahia Blanca and Punta Alta - as claimed by neighbors and former railway puntaltenses - or rather it is a utopia fueled by nostalgic claims?
"What can see, it all depends on the efforts being made not just mean a commitment of both municipalities, but also because the state does not forget that here was a theft of assets owned, "said Miguel Angel Acosta, drive puntaltense the cooperative rail is assembled to finalize the project.
According to Acosta, one of the keys to recover the service is to ensure that the national government to end the granting of this section Pampeano Ferroexpreso the company.
"The Villa Arias & Cabin East (in the vicinity of the Saladero) took about 18 kilometers of track. Disarm a disused having to build another and the subsidy that gives the state by keeping it stored, "she complained.
Acosta, who worked on the railroad until 1991, said are making the appropriate court filings and is expected to Railway Infrastructure Administration (ADIF) is presented with a prosecutor to respond to local complaints.
"Neither the bank was in some sections. Ferroexpreso must return the way because the state gave the full branch, "he said, then noted that even had a double track that would Spurr which took out all the sleepers.
Federico Weinhold, other members of the future cooperative explained that in meetings with ADIF, members of this national organization were told that if Ferroexpreso Pampeano not fulfilling its obligations, the State may withdraw its approval of the section where irregularities are found.
, "The roads and the material that was removed must be replaced by Ferroexpreso, who was in charge of its operation. Negligence, omission or investigate the ADIF issues, will have to demonstrate why these materials are missing, "he added.
Similarly ruled Ariel Ramírez, Professor of History and founder of the Center Southwest Railway Studies Buenos Aires, a group that some years ago presented a project for the recovery of the train service between Bahia Blanca and Punta Alta.
Orlando Ramírez and Dr. Fabian hail were among the first to travel and see the dismantling of the branch in 2004.
Everything has been cannibalized, have broken rails, sleepers were stolen, the tamarisk trees that were at the edge of the undermined road embankments, bridges and culverts, "he said.
He noted that the theft of rails and sleepers was not the work of needy people who use wood for heating in winter.
"The rails were stolen by some scrap and do not know if someone with the connivance more because when we traveled the 32 miles that has a branch line between Bay and Punta Alta, saw a truck with oxyacetylene cutters. Here There are dark questions about what really happened. "
trains between Bahia Blanca and Punta Alta were the nerve driver of public passenger transport.
Until the late '60s, a dozen of daily Sud Station laced with similar puntaltenses of Puerto Belgrano and Admiral Solier. At first it took 42 minutes, the second 56.
formations were pulled by steam locomotives and then by car-engine Fiat diesel engines such as Baldwin, Cockerill and GT22.
slowly, partly due to the motorization of Argentina, who put the car within reach of many, and strong competition from buses, trains were losing weight.
should also join the progressive neglect of the State on the issue and not a few bad policies by the railway authorities regarding the closing of branches and failure frequencies.
While in 1951 the local train Ingeniero White, Garro, Spurr, Galván and Puerto Belgrano carried 1,800,000 passengers in 1977 fell to just 93,000 tickets.
The coup de grace came in 1992, decision by the national government, though, as public transport, local trains had died much earlier.
But inactivity must add something worse: the lifting of 18 kilometers of track, as well as cannibalization of culverts and bridges.
Against this backdrop, is it possible that the train running again between Bahia Blanca and Punta Alta - as claimed by neighbors and former railway puntaltenses - or rather it is a utopia fueled by nostalgic claims?
"What can see, it all depends on the efforts being made not just mean a commitment of both municipalities, but also because the state does not forget that here was a theft of assets owned, "said Miguel Angel Acosta, drive puntaltense the cooperative rail is assembled to finalize the project.
According to Acosta, one of the keys to recover the service is to ensure that the national government to end the granting of this section Pampeano Ferroexpreso the company.
"The Villa Arias & Cabin East (in the vicinity of the Saladero) took about 18 kilometers of track. Disarm a disused having to build another and the subsidy that gives the state by keeping it stored, "she complained.
Acosta, who worked on the railroad until 1991, said are making the appropriate court filings and is expected to Railway Infrastructure Administration (ADIF) is presented with a prosecutor to respond to local complaints.
"Neither the bank was in some sections. Ferroexpreso must return the way because the state gave the full branch, "he said, then noted that even had a double track that would Spurr which took out all the sleepers.
Federico Weinhold, other members of the future cooperative explained that in meetings with ADIF, members of this national organization were told that if Ferroexpreso Pampeano not fulfilling its obligations, the State may withdraw its approval of the section where irregularities are found.
, "The roads and the material that was removed must be replaced by Ferroexpreso, who was in charge of its operation. Negligence, omission or investigate the ADIF issues, will have to demonstrate why these materials are missing, "he added.
Similarly ruled Ariel Ramírez, Professor of History and founder of the Center Southwest Railway Studies Buenos Aires, a group that some years ago presented a project for the recovery of the train service between Bahia Blanca and Punta Alta.
Orlando Ramírez and Dr. Fabian hail were among the first to travel and see the dismantling of the branch in 2004.
Everything has been cannibalized, have broken rails, sleepers were stolen, the tamarisk trees that were at the edge of the undermined road embankments, bridges and culverts, "he said.
He noted that the theft of rails and sleepers was not the work of needy people who use wood for heating in winter.
"The rails were stolen by some scrap and do not know if someone with the connivance more because when we traveled the 32 miles that has a branch line between Bay and Punta Alta, saw a truck with oxyacetylene cutters. Here There are dark questions about what really happened. "
the future. Ramirez warned that without the support of the person occupying the puntaltense quartermaster, the project remains viable.
"We need the hand of the state to rebuild those roads that are licensed, I think Ferroexpreso Pampeano, and by law the company must maintain," he said.
also recalled that, among other steps taken, in 2002, along with hail provided a bridge between the city of Coronel Rosales, the Province and the Nation to develop a fast train service.
"While workers' cooperatives - such as those raised Acosta - are interesting for repair and restructuring of wagons, railway stations or halts, the state presence is vital in this building and maintain railway lines.
"We met with the mayor as soon Rosalena Starc Nestor took his first term. He said he would support the idea but in fact there was no support and no intention to put his shoulder to reactivate rail project.
From cooperative future points to the recovery by the state, branch, after which the concessionaire conditions the rails.
lighter cars would be used later as Tecnotren (see separate article) that will lower the value of the passage from 6 pesos for a ticket today bus at 3.50.
"The trains take about 40 minutes. The collective, if not broken on the road, it takes nearly an hour. People could travel by bus to the hospital sector and Italian Penna and train to the Parque de Mayo and the UNS, combining the train to Buenos Aires, "he said.
For now, the meetings aim to quickly establish the cooperative rail, making the branch ADIF recover looted and concessions to members new entity to operate such service.
"Utopia or reality? The end is open.
"We need the hand of the state to rebuild those roads that are licensed, I think Ferroexpreso Pampeano, and by law the company must maintain," he said.
also recalled that, among other steps taken, in 2002, along with hail provided a bridge between the city of Coronel Rosales, the Province and the Nation to develop a fast train service.
"While workers' cooperatives - such as those raised Acosta - are interesting for repair and restructuring of wagons, railway stations or halts, the state presence is vital in this building and maintain railway lines.
"We met with the mayor as soon Rosalena Starc Nestor took his first term. He said he would support the idea but in fact there was no support and no intention to put his shoulder to reactivate rail project.
From cooperative future points to the recovery by the state, branch, after which the concessionaire conditions the rails.
lighter cars would be used later as Tecnotren (see separate article) that will lower the value of the passage from 6 pesos for a ticket today bus at 3.50.
"The trains take about 40 minutes. The collective, if not broken on the road, it takes nearly an hour. People could travel by bus to the hospital sector and Italian Penna and train to the Parque de Mayo and the UNS, combining the train to Buenos Aires, "he said.
For now, the meetings aim to quickly establish the cooperative rail, making the branch ADIF recover looted and concessions to members new entity to operate such service.
"Utopia or reality? The end is open.
on Facebook. At least two Facebook groups have been working for the return of the train. Railway Union call themselves Bahía Blanca and Punta Alta We want the train back to Punta Alta Bahía Blanca.
Two possible models
* Vehicle trails bidirectional particularly suitable for wide-and middle-and inter-urban services nearby.
* Based on a car engine, four-wheel drive, with two removable front access and driving up to 50 passengers. One or both sides can be replaced easily by semitrailers, bringing capacity to 100 passengers duo or triple to 150 passengers.
* Training can run at a maximum speed of 55 km with a consumption of only 90 liters of diesel per 900 kilometers.
* It has a diesel engine of Fiat Duna is low floor, single level, no stairs or slopes and 20 cm. pathways allows easy and fast rise and fall of its passengers without necessary dependence of platforms. It also gives opportunity for wheelchair entry
Cochemotor Materfer, Scania truck engine
bidirectional
* Vehicle designed for middle-distance services, ie the hands of 500 kilometers or 10 hours away.
* is composed of two dual-cockpit, one at each end, equipped with air conditioning, chemical toilets, chairs reclining, automatic doors and capacity for 132 passengers. * For the propulsion
used a Scania truck engine, capable of driving the train at a maximum speed of 120 km / h.
"Four million dollars?
Ramirez said that in 2004 the cost of one kilometer of track, made from scratch, was around 330 000 pesos.
"I have now understood that the rails are not manufactured in the country, which increases price. Then it would not be unreasonable to talk about a cost of 500 thousand dollars per mile single track.
"Here - added - are 32 kilometers or 16 million pesos (4 million), but in a simple way, which requires a detour to that park one of the two formations when crossing on the way, or make a double track. "
Noting that the last repair of that road was made in 1988, considered that the renovation should be complete.
"Without be an expert, I believe that if the tamarisk broke the structure of the embankments, whether cannibalized and stole rails and ties and if the brackish zone undermined much of the structure, means you have to do work from scratch, "he argued.
"I have now understood that the rails are not manufactured in the country, which increases price. Then it would not be unreasonable to talk about a cost of 500 thousand dollars per mile single track.
"Here - added - are 32 kilometers or 16 million pesos (4 million), but in a simple way, which requires a detour to that park one of the two formations when crossing on the way, or make a double track. "
Noting that the last repair of that road was made in 1988, considered that the renovation should be complete.
"Without be an expert, I believe that if the tamarisk broke the structure of the embankments, whether cannibalized and stole rails and ties and if the brackish zone undermined much of the structure, means you have to do work from scratch, "he argued.
For
history
* There were two railroads that united our city in Punta Alta. The first corresponded to the laying of tracks called the Strategic Rail, based on Grünbein, came to the Naval Base Port Belgrano. It was conducted by the Southern Railway company and qualified in 1898. In 1945, approximately, was raised.
* Other railway was made by the company which operated the line Rosario-Puerto Belgrano, which in 1922 extended the rails from Punta Alta, and our city, with Brown on 1800 terminal.
* Chronicles of the period argue that the station Solier, direct travel 25 minutes went back and forth. The trains ran to the station Rosario (then bus terminal) to the July 9, 1949. By order of the Peronist government, as of July 11 convoys made the trip between South and Solier stations. The stretch of track between the station and today Rosario Triangle site was sold and dismantled.
* Other railway was made by the company which operated the line Rosario-Puerto Belgrano, which in 1922 extended the rails from Punta Alta, and our city, with Brown on 1800 terminal.
* Chronicles of the period argue that the station Solier, direct travel 25 minutes went back and forth. The trains ran to the station Rosario (then bus terminal) to the July 9, 1949. By order of the Peronist government, as of July 11 convoys made the trip between South and Solier stations. The stretch of track between the station and today Rosario Triangle site was sold and dismantled.
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